tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post5003199733631128568..comments2023-11-03T05:09:47.246-07:00Comments on Ramblings ~: i-Nightmare-- Apple Rotten to the Core?Franhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-36042251620216540882010-12-30T08:15:03.607-08:002010-12-30T08:15:03.607-08:00(cont.)
As far as the "propaganda" at ...(cont.) <br /><br />As far as the "propaganda" at Foxconn, I'd like to know how that is any different from any US corporation. There are cultural differences of what people respond to that makes the wording slightly different, sure, but I get a six figure salary for one of the best companies to work for in America and we still get told to think of the best interests of the company in everything we do. And when I was in the military and we had a spate of suicides in Iraq, they baffled equally as much by sending in a bunch of chaplains to give mandatory talks to us about their (spiritual mumbo jumbo) reasons to live. It turned suicide into some sort of a joke straight out of Joseph Heller's Catch-22. And what about the safety nets? You mean like the ones under the Golden Gate bridge or the suicide prevention fence on the roof of the high school I went to? I guess it's all just so terrible because it's Communist China and Evil Corporations.<br /><br />I just wish people would look at suicide as a men's issue and treat it with seriousness instead of using it to score ideological points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-43076192849181927252010-12-30T07:59:56.268-08:002010-12-30T07:59:56.268-08:00Gonna be the devil's advocate here... but 11 s...Gonna be the devil's advocate here... but 11 suicides out of 475,000 workers is better than the suicide rate in the USA of almost 17 deaths per 100,000 people. In the meantime, the suicide rate in China is almost as high as for the battle-weary US Marines (20). These are all figures for men, by the way, because from what I understood, the Foxconn victims were mostly mrn. Overall the suicide rate in China is about 7 per 100,000. That means we should expect about 30 Foxconn deaths per year in Shenzhen.<br /><br />You can always make a story by looking at the suicide rate for men and ignore the fact that it's a men's issue above everything else. Having read interviews with other Foxconn workers, they are there living in those dorms and working hard because they are relatively high wages with virtually no living expenses. They can quit after a couple years and use their savings to start families, buy homes, or start a business. What we have to really consider is why men put themselves through this not just in China, but all over the world.<br /><br />What they have had is a dozen suicides in just over a month, though, which if that held up for a year would be well over 100 deaths. But that can still be purely by chance. Suicide is rarely a randomly distributed event. For example, soldiers are most likely to kill themselves a few days after they arrive in a war zone and within a few weeks of returning home afterwards. So a factory could have 12 deaths within a month and then one or two deaths every other month for the rest of the year and that would be quite normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-32704771557976243252010-12-30T07:33:38.240-08:002010-12-30T07:33:38.240-08:00Hi, McWheeler here.
I've been successfully pr...Hi, McWheeler here.<br /><br />I've been successfully predicting business ouncomes for 30yrs.<br /><br />Here's my current observation.<br /><br />The reason why no on is doing anything about unemployment in the US is that they are following what Naomi Klein calls a "Disaster Capitalism" model.<br /><br />In a rescent speach by the Chineese Ambasordor to the US, the official stated that China no longer wants to make all the petty, useless crap that the US wants. Rather, they want to move to high-tech like Japan, Taiwan and Indonesia.<br /><br />Get it? China no longer want to have low-wage, polluting industry...and the US is desperately in need of manufacturing jobs, isn't it?<br /><br />They've force the US workers into a position where they'll work for "a nickel and a nail"<br /><br />The upside for business is that, for the most part, the infracstucture for manufacturing is still is place, languishing.<br /><br />Slavery, of the Chineese kind, is coming to a town near you, Mr & Mrs America.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16499107223337208351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-7282267956251340732010-12-30T07:04:34.382-08:002010-12-30T07:04:34.382-08:00BULLSHIT!!!! CAPITALISM AND A WORK-ETHIC ARE THE O...<strong>BULLSHIT!!!! CAPITALISM AND A WORK-ETHIC ARE THE ONLY HOPE FOR THOSE ENSLAVED IN THAT LEFTIST COMMUNIST HELL-HOLE!!!!<br />HEY, STICK AROUND FOR <a href="http://americaphile.blogspot.com/2007/06/morning-after.html" rel="nofollow">PIAPS' ONE WORLD SAPPHIC SOCIALIST DISTATORSHIP</a>!!!! YOU'LL GET PLENTY OF THE SAME!!!!!</strong>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-12965166097010571652010-12-17T07:59:57.951-08:002010-12-17T07:59:57.951-08:00That & a huge boycott of all companies using t...That & a huge boycott of all companies using this kind of inhumane/slave labor. <br /><br />Who knew Apple was rotten to the core???Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-31799493701597730882010-12-16T19:29:54.535-08:002010-12-16T19:29:54.535-08:00We need to make retail chains sell at least 50% US...We need to make retail chains sell at least 50% US merchandise. That would clean up a lot of the worst abuses.libhomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537213558568338561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-11545992759370970922010-12-16T09:59:19.848-08:002010-12-16T09:59:19.848-08:00I received an e mil from Apple telling me there is...I received an e mil from Apple telling me there is still time to get an i-pad engraved with a personal<br />touch. So I called their 800 number. The call went like this:<br /><br />"Hi! I'm an automated system that can handle full sentences. What are you calling about today sales, service or customer support?"<br /><br />Me: Customer service<br /><br />Robot: I'll get you to a representative, gives me a number of choices- I choose "sales" because they are always quicker about taking more money. <br /><br />The clerk answered "it's a beautiful day at Apple" <br /><br />Me: Not for the Chinese workers at the sweatshop in China. <br /><br />Clerk: I have no idea what you are referring to . <br /><br />Me: NPR ran a story about the high suicide rate at the mfg site in China. <br /><br />Clerk: Says it is probably blocked on my internet connection. <br />Oh! I see info about Foxconn. <br /><br />Me: I'm just calling to say we've been Apple Customers for over 20 years, but we can;t buy your products if the company is involved in 21st century slavery & human rights violations. <br /><br />Clerk: Maam I just work at a call center subcontracted by Apple, so I don't even have a way to send such a message. <br />She makes some comment that she too is appalled. <br /><br />I called back & talked to a person in the service department, who forwarded me to the Customer Service rep. <br /><br />She too was appalled. <br />She offered to forward this message to people who read the messages, I told her I do not want<br />a prefabricated/automated message. <br /><br />I said we would not be buying Apple products until they stop engaging in 21st century slavery & human rights violations. <br /><br />Someone at Apple will get back to me......Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-14780945738566493092010-12-16T05:07:40.709-08:002010-12-16T05:07:40.709-08:00Hideous. I'd read about this some time ago, I ...Hideous. I'd read about this some time ago, I think in the NY Times.<br /><br />Show me a billionaire, and I'll show you somebody who has made it on the backs of the poor and disenfranchised.Lulu Maudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100523351881499282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-72048383885604958612010-12-15T21:12:20.203-08:002010-12-15T21:12:20.203-08:00That is the thing-- they are making money hand ove...That is the thing-- they are making money hand over fist. <br />We bought our son a replacement electric cord for his 5 year old Apple laptop, as his was frayed.... <br />$79 bucks. <br /><br />Are you effing kidding me? <br /><br />They must have a 900% profit margin. <br /><br />To hear the solution is to put nets up to catch the people jumping to hope to die instead of work there. <br /><br />I'd like to put steel mesh up in front of the damned Mac store. <br /><br />We'll buy your products when you quit abusing workers.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-26374447248442409862010-12-15T20:53:05.442-08:002010-12-15T20:53:05.442-08:00how much money did steve jobs make this year? thes...how much money did steve jobs make this year? these execs really don't give a shit about their workers, but they wouldn't have gotten stinkin' rich without the sweat of all their employees. that's gratitude for ya, huh?nonnie9999http://mikk2.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-68220672961717215492010-12-15T18:18:45.611-08:002010-12-15T18:18:45.611-08:00As Thomm Hartman says:
slavery is still being used...As Thomm Hartman says:<br />slavery is still being used in the U.S. as much as before the Civil War -<br />the difference is that now we don't have to see the eyes of our slaves.<br /><br />Sad situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-90501251205387307072010-12-15T17:17:43.653-08:002010-12-15T17:17:43.653-08:00It breaks my heart & everyone who reads it has...It breaks my heart & everyone who reads it has used the word "slavery" in response. <br /><br />As long as people keep lining up & camping out all night to be the first to own the next Apple, Dell & HP products (Apple seems to have the biggest cult & wait in line for the next best i-thing)... they will keep using these most offensive manufacturing slaves- because it is all about profit. <br /><br />How did they keep it such a well hidden secret??Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3882537619389851611.post-58387422123298590932010-12-15T14:22:53.304-08:002010-12-15T14:22:53.304-08:00this is a very troubling story. I think all the s...this is a very troubling story. I think all the stuff we buy from China is suspect. wouldn't our slave driving corporations love to do this to us here--they are no doubt working upon it!Life As I Know It Nowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733963455243806298noreply@blogger.com